Comments on: 20 Reasons to Never Drink Soda or Diet Soda Again http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/ A place where beginner, amateur, and experienced athletes can maximize their physical potential. Fri, 02 Dec 2011 21:26:37 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Steve http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/comment-page-1/#comment-69772 Steve Thu, 04 Aug 2011 14:20:10 +0000 http://www.projectswole.com/blog/2007/11/04/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/#comment-69772 Wow, that's quite a response. I can see you are passionate about your cause. Thanks for the thorough contribution. Wow, that’s quite a response. I can see you are passionate about your cause. Thanks for the thorough contribution.

]]> By: Philliam http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/comment-page-1/#comment-69737 Philliam Thu, 04 Aug 2011 03:15:19 +0000 http://www.projectswole.com/blog/2007/11/04/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/#comment-69737 I don't like this post. At all. It's full of misinformation that things like news shows use daily to keep people interested (TONIGHT AT 6, HOW YOUR TAP WATER IS MURDERING YOUR CHILDREN AND AIDING TERRORISTS). Here's my take, as a University biology student: 1&2- One is banned in drinks in america one is banned in drinks in canada. Whats the difference? politics. Whenever you inject lab rats full of something, it's probably going to cause cancer. There's no good evidence to support either being worse than the other, and its potential to cause liver cancer is not well understood. (meaning a link between the two is weak). However, there is still a link, so possible dangers should not be dismissed, they just need further studies. 3- sugar is perhaps the worst part of soda, because it is so prevalent in the drinks. Sugar makes you fat and causes horrible sugar crashes, but is obviously fine in moderation or avoided by drinking diet, or maybe just going for an extra jog and realizing that sugar rush is going to end, and when it does, you will feel bad. 4- Sodium excretion has been found to be an indicator of calcium excretion (more sodium excreted usually means more calcium excreted) However, These effects are seen more significantly in low calcium diets (when you arent getting enough calcium anyway) and these excretion levels in a calcium sufficient diet had no significant impact on bone mass density. So the link between sodium and O.P. is weak at best. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14586799 5- Why are you drinking soda if it makes you nauseous or constipated? 6&14- Phosphourous is absolutely ESSENTIAL in your diet, and actually builds bones along with calcium (so yes, when it binds to calcium to strengthen your bones it is actively using up your body's calcium, keeping it from use in other bodily functions)But, the amount of P in soda compared to, say, a chicken breast, is relatively tiny. The problem arises when your phosphourous levels shoot far above your calcium level, a problem easily remedied by keeping in mind your daily calcium requirements, and drinking a nice glass of milk. http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/phosphorus-000319.htm 7- Whaaaaat? What's "heavy consumption"? I'd be eager to read the source on this... 8-10- 4 12oz. cans of Mountain Dew = roughly 1 16oz cup of dunkin doughnuts coffee. 11. Men have estrogen too, in fact low estrogen leads to low fertility in men... I dont know what your source is on this, but if I submitted this as a theory to my bio professor, I think he would laugh in my face until I slunk back out of his office in shame. 12&17. Whoaaaa these are a STRETCH. Ethanol is used as a fuel. And we drink it as booze? Ethanol is also used when people get methanol poisioning. So if youre concerned about...methanol from bottles...I guess just add some whiskey to it :p 13&18- Popular sodas prolly have on average a pH of maybe 2.5 (very acidic) but your stomach is constantly being filled with hydrochloric acid which has a pH of 2. So your digestive system can handle it. The bigger concern is how these acidic sodas (which are not all sodas, by the way) can erode tooth enamel. which again isn't that significant when consumed in moderation 15- true, but then again if you were scared off of everything that had some link to a carcinogen, you wouldn't be consuming much at all... 16. I'd be eager to see the source on this 19. I haven't heard this either, but soda sugar isn't poison, it's in a LOT of things. What else should be avoided then? 20. Children just shouldn't be drinking soda anyway. It's got too much sugar and, as explained before, can restrict bone growth if taken out of proportion with required calcium. Side note, 8 8oz glasses has no basis in science or medicine. Still, don't let my debunking prevent you from making healthier drink choices. Sodas are still high in sugar (as are most energy drinks), promote obesity, and have possible links to various cancers/kidney scarring later down the road. I will admit that I am an avid, addicted soda consumer so I do have bias, but as long as you keep things in moderation, there's no reason to think sodas are in anyway dangerous, as this might lead you to believe. I don’t like this post. At all. It’s full of misinformation that things like news shows use daily to keep people interested (TONIGHT AT 6, HOW YOUR TAP WATER IS MURDERING YOUR CHILDREN AND AIDING TERRORISTS). Here’s my take, as a University biology student:

1&2- One is banned in drinks in america one is banned in drinks in canada. Whats the difference? politics. Whenever you inject lab rats full of something, it’s probably going to cause cancer. There’s no good evidence to support either being worse than the other, and its potential to cause liver cancer is not well understood. (meaning a link between the two is weak). However, there is still a link, so possible dangers should not be dismissed, they just need further studies.

3- sugar is perhaps the worst part of soda, because it is so prevalent in the drinks. Sugar makes you fat and causes horrible sugar crashes, but is obviously fine in moderation or avoided by drinking diet, or maybe just going for an extra jog and realizing that sugar rush is going to end, and when it does, you will feel bad.

4- Sodium excretion has been found to be an indicator of calcium excretion (more sodium excreted usually means more calcium excreted) However, These effects are seen more significantly in low calcium diets (when you arent getting enough calcium anyway) and these excretion levels in a calcium sufficient diet had no significant impact on bone mass density. So the link between sodium and O.P. is weak at best.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14586799

5- Why are you drinking soda if it makes you nauseous or constipated?

6&14- Phosphourous is absolutely ESSENTIAL in your diet, and actually builds bones along with calcium (so yes, when it binds to calcium to strengthen your bones it is actively using up your body’s calcium, keeping it from use in other bodily functions)But, the amount of P in soda compared to, say, a chicken breast, is relatively tiny. The problem arises when your phosphourous levels shoot far above your calcium level, a problem easily remedied by keeping in mind your daily calcium requirements, and drinking a nice glass of milk.
http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/phosphorus-000319.htm

7- Whaaaaat? What’s “heavy consumption”? I’d be eager to read the source on this…

8-10- 4 12oz. cans of Mountain Dew = roughly 1 16oz cup of dunkin doughnuts coffee.

11. Men have estrogen too, in fact low estrogen leads to low fertility in men… I dont know what your source is on this, but if I submitted this as a theory to my bio professor, I think he would laugh in my face until I slunk back out of his office in shame.

12&17. Whoaaaa these are a STRETCH. Ethanol is used as a fuel. And we drink it as booze? Ethanol is also used when people get methanol poisioning. So if youre concerned about…methanol from bottles…I guess just add some whiskey to it :p

13&18- Popular sodas prolly have on average a pH of maybe 2.5 (very acidic) but your stomach is constantly being filled with hydrochloric acid which has a pH of 2. So your digestive system can handle it. The bigger concern is how these acidic sodas (which are not all sodas, by the way) can erode tooth enamel. which again isn’t that significant when consumed in moderation

15- true, but then again if you were scared off of everything that had some link to a carcinogen, you wouldn’t be consuming much at all…

16. I’d be eager to see the source on this

19. I haven’t heard this either, but soda sugar isn’t poison, it’s in a LOT of things. What else should be avoided then?

20. Children just shouldn’t be drinking soda anyway. It’s got too much sugar and, as explained before, can restrict bone growth if taken out of proportion with required calcium.

Side note, 8 8oz glasses has no basis in science or medicine.

Still, don’t let my debunking prevent you from making healthier drink choices. Sodas are still high in sugar (as are most energy drinks), promote obesity, and have possible links to various cancers/kidney scarring later down the road. I will admit that I am an avid, addicted soda consumer so I do have bias, but as long as you keep things in moderation, there’s no reason to think sodas are in anyway dangerous, as this might lead you to believe.

]]> By: Hayden http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/comment-page-1/#comment-63346 Hayden Sat, 14 May 2011 11:35:51 +0000 http://www.projectswole.com/blog/2007/11/04/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/#comment-63346 HAHA! Diet soda in plastic can decrease testosterone levels? HAHAHA! Because of what the plastic is made out of? Oh, so if i drink water out of plastic my testosterone levels will drop. Most stupid thing ive ever heard. And if you think you're right, where is the scientific evidence? HAHA! Diet soda in plastic can decrease testosterone levels? HAHAHA!
Because of what the plastic is made out of? Oh, so if i drink water out of plastic my testosterone levels will drop. Most stupid thing ive ever heard. And if you think you’re right, where is the scientific evidence?

]]> By: Sarina Besley http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/comment-page-1/#comment-33535 Sarina Besley Sat, 27 Nov 2010 16:56:25 +0000 http://www.projectswole.com/blog/2007/11/04/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/#comment-33535 Hi there I loved your post. I feel that it's important when discussing diabetes to at least point out natural therapies that have been shown to be effective in controlling high blood glucose. Many natural herbs can be including in a diabetics regimen that will help maintain a healthy glucose level. Hi there I loved your post. I feel that it’s important when discussing diabetes to at least point out natural therapies that have been shown to be effective in controlling high blood glucose. Many natural herbs can be including in a diabetics regimen that will help maintain a healthy glucose level.

]]> By: Blog-watch: weight loss diet – the final instalment http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/comment-page-1/#comment-30492 Blog-watch: weight loss diet – the final instalment Thu, 28 Oct 2010 19:58:43 +0000 http://www.projectswole.com/blog/2007/11/04/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/#comment-30492 [...] I was shocked to read a list of points of what both regular and diet sodas contain and do to you on Project Swole.  I think some of them are over-exaggerated and a few of their facts are debatable or are skewed [...] [...] I was shocked to read a list of points of what both regular and diet sodas contain and do to you on Project Swole.  I think some of them are over-exaggerated and a few of their facts are debatable or are skewed [...]

]]> By: Seb http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/comment-page-1/#comment-29541 Seb Sat, 16 Oct 2010 02:15:05 +0000 http://www.projectswole.com/blog/2007/11/04/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/#comment-29541 I justed chucked out a 6 pack of diet cola. I knew diet sodas weren't good, I just didn't know how bad. This summer I've had one every couple of days. No hot dogs and no soda. Thanks Steve. I justed chucked out a 6 pack of diet cola. I knew diet sodas weren’t good, I just didn’t know how bad. This summer I’ve had one every couple of days. No hot dogs and no soda. Thanks Steve.
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]]> By: Steve http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/comment-page-1/#comment-25754 Steve Wed, 29 Sep 2010 14:05:58 +0000 http://www.projectswole.com/blog/2007/11/04/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/#comment-25754 Sorry, I'm not sure what I used for sources. This is actually an old post and I didn't always cite my resources back then. Sorry, I’m not sure what I used for sources. This is actually an old post and I didn’t always cite my resources back then.

]]> By: gav tatu http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/comment-page-1/#comment-25226 gav tatu Fri, 24 Sep 2010 20:54:30 +0000 http://www.projectswole.com/blog/2007/11/04/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/#comment-25226 the only time i'd drink soda is at a resturant. and then i dont drink it, i take a little bottle of lemon or lime juice and just ask for water and ice, give a crafty little squirt and get a great refeshing drink, cheap too, lol ! the only time i’d drink soda is at a resturant.
and then i dont drink it, i take a little bottle of lemon or lime juice and just ask for water and ice, give a crafty little squirt and
get a great refeshing drink, cheap too, lol !

]]> By: Steve http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/comment-page-1/#comment-24625 Steve Wed, 22 Sep 2010 15:09:47 +0000 http://www.projectswole.com/blog/2007/11/04/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/#comment-24625 Green Tea is the best, but you can also choose the low calorie version of energy drinks like Monster, Red Bull, and the various 5 Hour Energy Shots. Of course energy drinks have their own downsides - they are acidic, often don't taste that great, use artificial sweeteners, etc... The low carb versions are probably not much better than diet soda, if at all. If you want to drink something healthy with a caffeine boost, green tea is your choice, just don't expect a HUGE boost unless you drink a bunch of it. Green Tea is the best, but you can also choose the low calorie version of energy drinks like Monster, Red Bull, and the various 5 Hour Energy Shots. Of course energy drinks have their own downsides – they are acidic, often don’t taste that great, use artificial sweeteners, etc… The low carb versions are probably not much better than diet soda, if at all. If you want to drink something healthy with a caffeine boost, green tea is your choice, just don’t expect a HUGE boost unless you drink a bunch of it.

]]> By: We Got Links - 9/21/2010 | The Mind-Muscle Connection http://www.projectswole.com/diet/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/comment-page-1/#comment-24411 We Got Links - 9/21/2010 | The Mind-Muscle Connection Tue, 21 Sep 2010 20:36:50 +0000 http://www.projectswole.com/blog/2007/11/04/20-reasons-to-never-drink-soda-or-diet-soda-again/#comment-24411 [...] Swole gives you 20 Reasons to Never Drink Soda Again.  Its suprising what is inside those 12oz [...] [...] Swole gives you 20 Reasons to Never Drink Soda Again.  Its suprising what is inside those 12oz [...]

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